01/26/1993 08:00 AM House STA

  HJR 3: LIMITING TERMS OF LEGISLATORS                                         
                                                                               
  CHAIRMAN VEZEY read the title of HJR 3, and invited the                      
  sponsor, Representative Terry Martin, to testify.                            
                                                                               
  Number 363                                                                   
                                                                               
  REPRESENTATIVE TERRY MARTIN, PRIME SPONSOR of HJR 3, spoke                   
  on the intent of term limitation.  He asked the committee to                 
  pass HJR 3 and suggested it would allow term limits to be                    
  tested for a few years.                                                      
                                                                               
  Number 411                                                                   
                                                                               
  CHAIRMAN VEZEY requested information from Representative                     
  Martin regarding the twelve year total of two terms in each                  
  body:  Four years in the House and eight years in the                        
  Senate.                                                                      
                                                                               
  Number 417                                                                   
                                                                               
  REPRESENTATIVE MARTIN stated the decision to limit the                       
  length of terms resulted from a discussion at the National                   
  Conference of State Legislatures (NCSL), and also from talks                 
  with the public.                                                             
                                                                               
  Number 433                                                                   
                                                                               
  CHAIRMAN VEZEY referenced a report in members' packets                       
  regarding term limits by NCSL.  Discussion among committee                   
  members ensued with regard to a lifetime ban from the                        
  legislature after serving.                                                   
                                                                               
  HB 17:  LIMITING TERMS OF LEGISLATURE                                        
                                                                               
  CHAIRMAN VEZEY referenced HB 17 with regard to term limit                    
  and asked if there were any comments.  Hearing none, HJR 3                   
  and HB 17 were held in committee for further consideration.                  
                                                                               
  Number 583                                                                   
                                                                               
  REPRESENTATIVE KOTT explained another difference in HJR 4                    
  compared to HJR 3, that being a legislator could go from the                 
  House to the Senate back to the House and then to the Senate                 
  indefinitely.                                                                
                                                                               
  Number 591                                                                   
                                                                               
  REPRESENTATIVE NORDLUND stated the legislator would still                    
  have to challenge the incumbent.                                             
  HJR 6:  CONST. AM: LIMIT LEGISLATIVE TERMS                                   
                                                                               
  Number 600                                                                   
                                                                               
  REPRESENTATIVE VEZEY thanked Representative Nordlund for his                 
  testimony, and held HJR 3 for further consideration.  On                     
  that same topic, HJR 6 sponsored by Representative Curt                      
  Menard, was reviewed next.                                                   
                                                                               
  Number 607                                                                   
                                                                               
  REPRESENTATIVE CURT MENARD, PRIME SPONSOR of HJR 6,                          
  discussed the support for term limits.  He noted HJR 6                       
  allowed four terms in the House and two in the Senate.                       
                                                                               
  Number 619                                                                   
                                                                               
  CHAIRMAN VEZEY asked Representative Menard where the wording                 
  came from or the reason for two terms in the House and one                   
  term in the Senate along with a lifetime limit.                              
                                                                               
  Number 626                                                                   
                                                                               
  REPRESENTATIVE MENARD stated a two or four year separation                   
  was not as important as the idea itself.  A lifetime ban was                 
  not a requirement either, he added.                                          
                                                                               
  Number 633                                                                   
                                                                               
  CHAIRMAN VEZEY discussed the break in power for the                          
  incumbent.                                                                   
                                                                               
  Number 639                                                                   
                                                                               
  REPRESENTATIVE KOTT asked the difference between HJR 6 and                   
  HJR 3.                                                                       
                                                                               
  Number 644                                                                   
                                                                               
  REPRESENTATIVE MENARD was unfamiliar with HJR 3.                             
                                                                               
  Number 645                                                                   
                                                                               
  REPRESENTATIVE KOTT stated he believed HJR 6 and HJR 3 were                  
  basically the same except for the 12 year break.                             
                                                                               
  Number 651                                                                   
                                                                               
  CHAIRMAN VEZEY, as a point of information to the committee,                  
  stated that SJR 3 had passed the Senate State Affairs                        
  Committee.